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questions after his speech. let's listen in. >> japan, of course, is the first modern economy to be trapped at the zero bound. interest rates close to zero. their experience foreshadowed the global financial crisis of 2008. the japanese had a stock market booming bust and a property boom and bust together which was roughly double the size, proportionally speaking, to the united states. it was a major shock to the economy. they have responded to it to a variety of tools. i think a couple things that we learned from watching their experience and troubles and difficulties they have been through and to that i would point to that we have tried to learn from them, the first is, aggressiveness, early aggressiveness of monetary policy. what we learned from japan is we learned from the 1930s. once you have a deflation, prices dropping, prices and wages are dropping, they can be very very hard to get out of that. there is a lot of downward pressure on the economy. we were very aggressive early on in the united states to avoid deflation and we have maintained inflation close to our 2% target which is
president obama. but mitt isn't having it, trying to get ohio voters to the right by focusing on the economy. >> with incomes going down, every year, every year going down, down, down. prices of electricity up and health insurance up and the cost of gasoline, having doubled, these are tough times. even for families with jobs. i know what it takes to get this economy going again. cheryl: so what would a tax plan under a romney/ryan administration look like? rich edson breaks it down for us. rich? >> reporter: well, cheryl, democrats call it a giveaway to the rich at the expense of the middle class. republicans say they're wrong, and this morning governor romney defended his tax plan. >> by the way, don't be expecting a huge cut in taxes because i'm also going to lower deductions and exemptions. by bringing rates down, we'll be able to let small businesses keep more of their money to hire more people. >> in the end the details are really up to congress. romney's proposed cutting every tax rate by 20%. to insure the treasury department takes in about the same amount of money under a new system,
, but the fact he was not speaking optimistically about the economy and the effects of qe3 on the economy sent a damper on the stocks. a nice way to begin the day with 75 up on the dow, 3.6 on the s&p, and, again, nasdaq is the only one in the red. lauren: sometimes the fed tie doesn't list everything. silver ending at seven month highs. look at that. david: oil, a little of a rise, natural gas, though, we want to focus on natural gas because we have seen that thing grow for the past month or so. it was up 5% today. if you're looking for some play in energy, oil seems a little too hectic for you, go to natural gas. with ce get -- can we get that up there? okay. switch to airlines. lauren: they are seeing a pop today. as you see, there was a report out earlier saying the outlook for the airline industry is improving. that's a good sign. look at that. up arrows across the board. david: ibm, you knew it was a pick when warren buffet went in there. today, look at this, an all time 10-year high at the top there trading at $210.43 per share. that was a 1.5% jump today. a nice big move by ibm. fed ch
that will be the headline on thursday morning? probably not. the debate is supposed to focus on the economy, a tough subject for the president. minutes from now, another report on manufacturing and it's likely to confirm an economy on the verge of recession. contrary to media reports, governor romney's campaign is not dead. a rasmussen poll gives him an edge among voters who will definitely vote and see his tracking poll of likely voters first on this program minutes from now. no letup in tax the rich mania. the u.n. takes aim at the richer people in america and europeans riot again to make them pay for, well, for everything. and then there is this, the european beat americans at golf again. but cheer up, "varney & company" is about to begin. >> good morning, "varney & company," today is monday october the 1st. wednesday is the first presidential debate and the obama campaign spent the weekend trying to low up media expectations that the president's already won. most mainstream polls do indeed have president obama in the lead, but according to rasmussen, governor romney has an edge among certain voters. 43
: nicole thank you. dagen: take a look at this. the u.s. economy growing at a very weak 1.3% in the second quarter, revised down from 1.7%. that is, well, lousy. connell: deputy editor at the "wall street journal"'s editorial page is here to tell us it's always the economy, stupid, at least that was your column? >> that's right. and any presidential election one way or another it is going to be about the economy, no matter how hard the candidates try to deny that. the most amazing one perhaps of all time is indeed the incumbent obama who is running as though the economy during his term didn't happen or at least if it happened, it was the fault of somebody who was president four years before him and what he wants to talk about is the economy he's going to create starting in january 13 which will consist of people having green jobs, making windmills and solar panels. i think the american voters are probably getting a little bit frustrated that no one will talk about the economy as it exists right now, dropping to 1.3% in the second quarter. the united states economy is barely, barely moving.
to stimulate the economy. again, i put stimulate in quotes because who knows if it is momentary for china. >> we have this bump of china of 2.5%, you can't underestimate the short-term tailwind, whatever they have for the economic expansion, especially on commodities prices. that is part of the reason why we have a significant progress. david: were you aware of all this? that is basically what it is. were you worry about it? >> i am very suspicious and wary. however, i don't think that the close is clear. a little bit underweight equities, as you well know, a lot longer for state solvents. david: keep the sound there. i want to hear there is any interaction. tim is joining us right now. when we think about these honeypots in the market? >> i agree with him. the market is clearly ignoring the negative news that we are seeing in the u.s. and the fact that we are in a recession and maybe longer in europe. it is not deterring people from buying stocks right now. you could certainly call it a bubble in general. i think equities was probably overheated here. given the weak industrial numbers, g
max ferris. and welcome everybody. gary b, is economic patriotism exactly what the economy needs? >> well, not this version of economic patriotism. you know, i think this plan is going to do a lot more harm than good, brenda, especially to the country's bottom line. look, i went through the plan, obama's plan. i went through his tv commercial, three things jumped out that just didn't make any sense, one, he wants to-- one, he wants to cut tax breaks or companies that outsource. when companies outsource the net effect is to create more jobs that were here. people were able to buy goods cheaper because companies are able to make the goods cheaper and buy goods cheaper and spend more money in other sectors, two the other they think he wants to do, he wanted to invest in education and training programs. that's all well and good, brenda and we know that's going to cost millions and millions of dollars, but that's not how the economy works. >> gary b, it's spending more, what does that do to the debt? >> well, brenda, he tries to get up, up, up. when i went to work for ibm 30-odd years
such difficulty, you know, in the economy because of federal reserve policy. likelihood of hearing this, very very slim. and maybe seeing how would you balance a budget? in our campaign we had a precise plan of cutting a trillion dollars and balancing the budget in three years. you know, we're in this horrendous crisis and neither one of them are going to say anything, oh, maybe we ought to cut something. there's no proposal to cut anything. it's also tinkering around with massive automatic increases and the american people are starting to wake up and realize it is all fiction and they are not serious. connell: congressman paul, thanks as always. >> thanks. connell: fox business network, beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern live from denver, neil cavuto will be on the next hour to talk about the debate. neil cavuto. dagen: the economy will be a big focus of tonight's debate. adp the payroll processing firm came out earlier this morning and reported that 162,000 private sector jobs were added last month. more than expected. to weigh in on that, and the debate, the head of u.s. interest rate strategy at u
calling for higher taxes on the rich and new spending plans and it comes as we find out the economy's slowing, and someone here says the economic patriotism will only cause this number to keep growing. and take the economy down for good. are they right? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, here are the bulls and bears, gary b smith, tobin smith. jonas max ferris. and welcome everybody. gary b, is economic patriotism exactly what the economy needs? >> well, not this version of economic patriotism. you know, i think this plan is going to do a lot more harm than good, brenda, especially to the country's bottom line. look, i went through the plan, obama's plan. i went through his tv commercial, three things jumped out that just didn't make any sense, one, he wants to-- one, he wants to cut tax breaks or companies that outsource. when companies outsource the net effect is to create more jobs that were here. people were able to buy goods cheaper because companies are able to make the goods cheaper and buy goods cheaper and spend more money in other sectors, two the o
losing steam. let's take a look at some good news economy released. institute for non manufacturing index rose 5 to 55.1 in september. that is up from last month. any reading above 50 signals activity is expanding. on the jobs front private sector payrolls increased by 162,000 last month according to the payroll processing firm adp. that is higher than expected. positive news boosting stocks, the dow losing steam. volume below average even by recent standards. hewlett-packard the biggest drag on the dow hitting its lowest level in ten years after the company issued a very bleak forecast for the 2013 period due to a decrease in technology spending worldwide. oil falling well below 9500 in terms of slowing demand. the impact of china and drop in oil prices making the energy sector the worst performing sector today. oil settling down by $3.75. i am here filling in for liz claman because liz claman is in cleveland, of ohio. her old stomping ground as part of the open for business series and liz will talk to business leaders to find out how the city turned itself around. we want to know. give
for lou dobbs. an election that was supposed to be all about the struggling economy, right? now leading to questions over the president's handling of foreign policy and the administrations truthfulness to the american people. to reporreport the united states diplomats in libya asked the obama administration repeatedly for additional security right up until the september 11, 2012 attacks. house oversight committee chairman darrell ice looking to secretary of state hillary clinton for answers. telling congressmen issa the extra resources are being denied despite firebombings and online death threats. vice presidential nominee paul ryan seizing onnthe commission to launch attacks at the democratic ticket. >> feature if you turn on the ty you can see that the obama foreign-policy is unraveling before our eyes. it's not just an isolated incident where we lost four americans in libya. that's tragic. but it is part of a bigger story of the unraveling of this agenda all over the world. we have distanced our ally, israel, we are not advancing our interests in the middle east, and the president i
for iran and the economy and perhaps take a military course. melissa: yeah, it feels like we're not having impact. that's why we're talking about all these things tonight. thank you very much ambassador, for coming on. >> thank you very much. melissa: hoards of demonstrators violently taking to the streets of greece and spain to protest new austerity measures. governments are trying to take one step forward to solve the continent's debt crisis but some citizens seemed determine to take two steps back. with the u.s. trying to solve its own looming debt crisis could we see this kind of turmoil break out here? steve moore from "the wall street journal" joins me with more on this. we watch these protests going on in the streets and the first thing on my mind is that it seems like things are getting worse instead of better across europe and i thought that we had sort of solved, at least part of the financial crisis there but, you know, we're looking at these pictures. what do you think, steve? >> i will answer your question whether this kind of thing could happen here, melissa because i think t
beyond the numbers and find out if the u.s. economy is already in recession. we'll tell you what some economists are saying. if you think the situation was close. obamacare may be making its way back to the supreme court. welcome to "the willis report." gerri: hello, everybody i'm gerri willis. high-stakes of the first debate has candidates leaving. nothing to chance. president obama and governor romney racing to get in last minute prep before going face-to-face first debate next wednesday in denver that is. what should we expect? let's ask bill kristol, editor of "the weekly standard" and byron york, chief political correspondent for the "washington examiner". welcome to you both. byron, i'll start with you. what does romney have to do to show up roads in here. even voters say they don't expect him to win? >> well the thing, he has to do the same thing he had to do all along which present himself as a good alternative to the president who will take the country in a different direction than the president and can point out the numerous flaws in the president's record. i mean, i wonder
economy through the gulf. melissa: what do you think is the appropriate response? because we were talking on the show yesterday about how sanctions it seems like are not necessarily working because we highlight ad company that is going ahead and buying iranian oil and is reportedly then selling it to china? because seems like the sanctions are not necessarily that effective. >> for a simple reason, melissa that not all of those who should be putting sanctions are putting sanctions. iran is trading with everybody else than the coalition that is putting sanctions. sanctions alone won't work. they are necessary but, the only thing we need to do. number two, you have the military capacity strike. that is only when we are sure that the iranians crossed that red line. third and most important i guess is work with the iranian opposition, with iranian students and women and minorities those who took to the streets in tehran remember in june 2009? they were very close shaking up the foundation for the regime. unfortunately washington did not seize the moment there. melissa: walid, thank you very m
obama will be there, too. remember, please the economy is at stall speed. unemployment 8%, and foreign policy in the middle east unravelling, little mention in the mainstream media. listen from the obama campaign team in advance of debate campaign spokeswoman, quote, what the american people are looking for is not just a professorial list of facts or accomplishments or even goals. obama has a tendency to give long substantive answers. simply, she is saying the president too smart for the average american. here is the washington examiner's reaction to that quote. worry about obama being too professor professorial to couch-sitting beer drinkers. the polls have him ahead and bill o'reilly is here to talk about the debate and how the media will spin it. all the names at the top of the hour. bill o'reilly. and talking to college student at university of michigan as part of the job creations solutions tour, and responded to the heckler. listen to this. >> this is the-- [crowd boos] . >> usa, usa. >> and that economy 25% of the world gdp. stuart: you want to hear more of his defense of americ
happening in the economy, disease -- does it not? >> i agree. look, there are major headwinds out there. it's hard to be positive about anything. europe's slowing down can, we're printing money like crazy, and when you're dealing with a world where the growth is coming from reducing friction as opposed to sort of increasing thrust, there's just not a lot of foundation there. there's nothing solid that investors or anyone can really stand on to be positive, in my opinion. david: and, stephen, i didn't like what ben bernanke and his buddies at the fed did, but the fact that they did that indicates that what they were seeing -- they have access to all kinds of data we don't have access to -- what they saw was something bordering on recession, otherwise they would not have gone all in as they did with qe3. >> yeah. you know, make no mistake, from the longer-term perspective, i agree. the negative impact of this easy money, you know, will catch up with us, but i think it's still several years down the road and probably comes most likely in the form of inflation. but right now particularly the eq
18,000 jobs in the sector. that is where the economy is being structured these days. 10,000 jobs in construction. manufacturing, 4000 jobs. melissa: we were looking at 113, does that make that same life? i just want to remind everyone that is not a good number. >> finding the list that the government number includes state and local layoffs. i don't think that adp number includes that. when you look at those two numbers since january, you will see a defeat for 172,000 jobs a month where it is about 150,000. it has to be above 200,000 to keep up with population growth. again, 8.2% we are looking at coming in for friday. lori: full employment around 4%? nobody talks about that anymore. >> we just talk about the jobless rate. lori: the temperature is going down, find your heating costs going way up? the impact the winter will have on the economy. melissa: take a look at metals had with those who break. gold trading up. copper, basically what. we will be right back. ♪ you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier
. this is for that reason. their economy will suffer a double little bit. they need crude-oil. people driving cars over there show the market coming of the way it did. those cracks blew out today. refinery fire in canada turned out to the storage tank. if you look at the cracks between the prices of crude oil versus gasoline that made a tremendous move today and there are other factors. may be a blip in that market but those cracks have been strong going forward so you will see strength in the product versus crude even if the crude comes -- will move out. cheryl: one other issue. talking about the election and november around the corner. do you find people sort of have true conversations about investment decisions at the end of the year? >> absolutely and people will be more concerned about that in october. the first of three presidential debates was the vice-presidential debate. people are disgusted with the lack of movement in washington concerning the fiscal cliff so part of the problem, the apathy in the market is people don't know where to go. very unclear and the light at the end of the tunnel is
for pouring more fed dollars in economy, and the markets pulled back. rich edson will have more on mr. bernanke's speech coming up. and the dow is still up, 161 points, that is the biggest intraday point gain, by the way, since september the 13th financial stocks leading the dow right now including, yes, the bank of america, america express, jpmorgan all having banner days. microsoft remaining the biggest laggard after two price targets cuts from jeffrey's and rbc. we've got traders at the new york stock exchange, the cme group and the nymex. let's take a look at the cme, charlie needles, the cme. charlie, what a day? is it all on the back of the ism numbers? >> it is. you know, chi pmi came out overnight, and that showed things have stabilized there, in china. european pmi was in line, not lighting the world on fire. a little concern over the employment situation there. but if you look at the breakdown of the u.s. pmi, you kind of hit on all cylinders. the prices paid was actually a little higher, but if you're trying to reflate the market, that's a decent measure. it had been 54 las
: cheryl: and biotech's a leader sector today. america's ceo has spoken and their outlook for the economy pretty dire. not the markets but the economy. what do they want to see and what are their ideas for jump starting america? former michigan governor and president of the business roundtable joining us live. dave: with sales up 95% year to date looks like everyone is thinking small these days. general manager -- that is the smart car. it is a fox business exclusive. cheryl: numbers are huge up 120% for sales year-over-year but first we will tell you what drove the market with the data download. a mixed day with the s&p 500 and the nasdaq eking out gains in the last few minutes of trading. that shows real resilience in the last few minutes. materials and consumer discretionary were the biggest laggers but you saw biotech and utility as the top performers. the euro pull away from the u.s. dollar and down three weeks gaining for the second straight day versus the greenback growing expectations with spain getting closer to seek a bailout from the euro zone boosting currency but the head of
trying to explain why he is pumping even more money into the economy. connell: the supreme court back to work today. whether your cell phone data is protected under the fourth amendment. judge andrew napolitano coming up. dagen: costing apple billionths. connell: let's start with nicole petallides. nicole: looking pretty good here today. we see the dow is up more than 1%. the s&p up nearly 1%. the text -- tech heavy nasdaq up. this was after three months of contraction. that was some good news there. another thing helping things along -- the dollar is lower, the euro is higher. you are seeing just about every name in the dow with an up arrow. i want you to take a book here at macy's. they will higher 80,000 for the seasonal. kohls, amazon, toys "r" us, just to name a few. dagen: host chris wallace had a little trouble getting information from vice presidential candidate paul ryan on his tax plan. >> it is lower by 2013. >> how much does it cost? >> it is revenue neutral. [ talking over each other ] >> we will get to that. >> let me just tell you. it would take me too long to go throug
and for himself. that includes foreign policy. begin talk to the campaign. we have to focus on the economy. it is the number one topic, but voters care about a lot of things. i wish he would make the broader case for romney foreign-policy and the broader chrism tough criticism of an obama foreign-policy. >> i think what you have seen is he tends to speak, especially about foreign policy, and really be vague sending generalities. we have some very specific things happening in libya. u.s. ambassador and three other americans were murdered. the investigation that the obama administration is placing some much importance on has not really started. there are a lot of specific things that run the kentuck about three failures on the part of the administration. so far he simply has not done. >> never too late to talk with the economy and what's going on. consumer confidence continues to plummet. can you take advantage of it at this point? can the president cover his tracks? >> he will try to. i kind of very much agree with the point about specifics. i think mitt romney looked at it in a big way. a
:30. and it could move the market, especially a big build in inventory finding a very slow economy and we're also going to get a ten o'clock new home sales numbers and normally they do not directly affect the market and we'll see coming up at ten o'clock this morning and you will have the numbers. the opening bell has stopped, it's stopped ringing and now they're actually trading and we're expecting a modest, actually, we're expecting a flat market to start with. flat to slightly lower, because of what's happening in europe, mayhem over there, especially in spain and that does not bowed well for america's stock market. we should see. we're dead flat in the half minute's worth of business. perhaps we were hasty when we put the blackberry maker rim, adding they added 2 million subscribers, nicole, i want a stock price. >> am i included in the "we"? i didn't have them on death watch, you may remember. stuart: you're right. >> the death music came on, hold on, what happened yesterday. went up 5% because they added subscribers and 3.3%, and up to 80 million subscribers. stuart: i got it. now, tell me
be an increase in productivity. lori: that was a pretty pathetic segue on my part to talk about the economy. as you know, there was a slew of economic data points released today. generally weak data. gdp and durable goods spell trouble ahead. m is a chief economist at russell and is joining us now. will there be an economic impact? >> hopefully the nfl, as you said, will lead to less productivity at work. getting back to that net positive for the economy. lori: thank you for flying. you had a downward revision. does that cause you to change your outlook? >> no. i view the gdp number being revised, i think that is just in line and reconciling with the last six months. the payroll data has averaged 97,000 jobs a month. that seems more consistent with the 1.3 gdp numbers that we sell today and with the 1.7 we saw previously. i think we are just reconciling accounts here. lori: you are on board with this qe3 that has been so controversial? >> yes. i certainly am. i view qe as a step towards growth targeting. if they have this formal inflation target of 2% now, they certainly want to keep room i
the economy than the republican challenger. that's what we've got. that looks very good for the president. it's not over yet. connell: i doubt that he's up as much as it says in some of those states or that he will win in all of those states. >> i was going to say the numbers are pretty widespread and consistent. anything could happen in the next 40 days, but if i were the romney campaign, i would be very concerned about those numbers in ohio, pennsylvania, florida, michigan. they're very scary numbers for governor romney. connell: thank you senator. i was going to say he may not win ohio by 10 but the trend has been in his favor. thank you senator for joining us. >> thanks for having me. dagen: senator, thank you very much. unrest and protests happening over there, we can take a look at pictures coming out of greece today, more money flooding into our markets right here. joining us now is kevin flanagan chief fixed income strategist at morgan stanley wealth management. kevin of course i'm talking about u.s. treasuries, one of the safest assets you can find around the globe. do you think a ra
expressed skepticism about the latest stimulus and its ability to boost the economy. the dow closed down 101 points. >>> good day for shares of research in motion. the blackberry maker said it gained two million subscribers. the investors liked the presentation of the upcoming blackberry 10 operating system. >>> shares of tesla motors nosediving. the electric carmaker slashed its sales target for 2012 and warned it is falling behind of production goals for the model s sedan. it has a follow on stock offering of 4.3 million shares. you can see that stock getting hammered. >>> our top story tonight as widespread protests erupt around the world, the united nations general assembly meeting in new york city in its second day. a hot button issue taking center stage. terrorism and how president obama is handling those threats. earlier he addressed the u.n. about the iranian government pursuit of nuclear arms. take a listen to what the president had to say. >> iranian government continues to prop up a dictator in damascus and support terrorist groups abroad. time and again it failed to take the oppo
financial and they're coming out with their numbers, basically the economy is improving. fewer borrowers are defaulting on their loans, on the debt. seeing more transactions, confidence has been improving for americans so they have been using their cards a little more. and paying it off. that is the environment we are in. nolast but not least, may deal with paypal, so that will add to their future transactions. for today a great day. ashley: ashley:.i. talking to john mccain about the biggest headwind facing the usa today. liz: can you imagine voting for this interview. wait until you listen come back here what he had to say. not just how we get rid of tax abductions, but all of them except two. but also which industries are mature enough that we should rip the rug out from underneath them and stop giving him all kinds of tax breaks. speaking very candidly with me. i first asked about different kinds of government strategies where government works best with this, here' here is what senator mccain had to say. >> you're picking winners and losers, and obvious in the case of solyndra and ma
double-digit percentages. then, the splits. the market versus the economy. the u.s. falling into recession pits again. our investors and for a stock surprise? mike holland thinks so. he is the chairman of holland and company. he is spending the last hour with us. you think there is a stock surprise that is a good one coming up? >> yes. i think if you had to characterize my years doing what i am doing, it is as a survivor. you have to be prepared for surprises in both directions. whenever we talk about you and i, that things can happen, we just heard three people talking about that. the things can happen, as well. ted weisberg is so smart. so good to listen to. his comments about what is going on, i think, are always -- liz: i love teddy. he has been well funneled and it is kind of obvious, it is the government trade, the central bank trade. >> i was shocked to not hear him say that. bernanke said a few years ago we have a problem. it would not be solved by the people in congress or in the white house. he actually said, this is not a deep secret, he can get the stock market a
banks. this from the third quarter of 2010 shows a much different economy. back to you. melissa: interesting. thank you so much for the six a headline that generated all kinds of surprises. apple apologizing for it map app. the ceo tim cook says the company is doing everything it can to make maps better. you can use alternatives by downloading maps. what? melissa: that is crazy. that is like we have a problem with our signal, please go over to our competitor. lori: silence, i think says more. dennis: remember when they had the intended debacle. not admitting anything was wrong with it and people were getting more and more frustrated. lori: that is a good point. i think charlie gasparino is standing by with his latest report. inc. of america, i guess this is more interesting to charlie, at least. the bank with a 3.5 million in charges. bank of america says this is not an admission of guilt. the settlement was reached to eliminate the uncertainties. melissa: the latest news from bank of america that pain is still being felt from the collapse of 2008. charlie gasparino is first to
, this president's policies on the economy have failed and failed miserably. if he is reelected we will have four more years. now it is becoming more and more clear that his foreign policy is crumbling around the world, and is not just the middle east. people are missile defense systems out of europe to appease russians. they spend $700 billion more on defense. he has tried to appease the chinese. they are expanding their sovereignty claims a round the world. the middle east policy is crumbling around it. america needs leaders. right now the only opportunity we will have is president romney. i hope you will see that. lou: thank you for being here. >> thank you. good to be with you. lou: much more on the president's speech to the united nations general assembly straight ahead. ♪ >> president obama has the lead in almost all national polls, but his lead varies widely. why? which poll should we believe? chain in green with our report. consumer confidence sores. home prices rise. the dow jones industrials take a triple digit dice. what is behind the south of? wall street legend michael holland with
factor in how this whole economy shapes up. going you there the holidays they will -- okay, do you have a question there? melissa: i did because i don't understand. it is not like they're going to stop delivering mail if they run out of money. they're not just fund out postage. they have a giant debt to the treasury, a huge line of credit. they're defaulting on debt they have now. they continue to get loans. they run out of cash not like they will shut the door on your customers and your customers will have to lay off all their workers, right? >> part of the problem they have to make this $5.5 billion payment for the prefunding of health care. they have got to make another payment here shortly in september for the retirement funds. another $5 billion. they're just not going to make those payments. they will not have enough cash going through the system to make this payment at this time. what they're going to do is they will move things around, close facilities faster than they had allegedly told us they were going to do it. so it disrupts the whole distribution system of the mailing pro
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